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Posted: Tue May 06, 2003 2:18 pm
by loosecannon
I guess I didnt catch the Jubilee cameo....but in reality, they threw in alot of stuff that you have to catch, which makes the movie watchable more than once. And to the "leaders of the xmen thing" i think that the leaders are the one that brings the dough. Wolverine for example. The movies focus on him alot, but rightfully so, even when i was little, wolverine was the most impressive. The director and the xmen crew had to focus on what sells, and they did, along with keeping the quality of the xmen series and pleasing the xmen buffs.

Posted: Tue May 06, 2003 3:54 pm
by BreakmanX
Exactly. That is why it is so successful.

I am really happy that Wolverine still has his adamintium too. When he got that ripped out of him by Magneto in the comics... it made him less cool. I heard he will be getting it, or maybe already got it, back. But, still. Yeah, Wolvie is great.

I only hope Gambit is in X3 :D

Posted: Tue May 06, 2003 4:44 pm
by RurouniQ
Nightcrawler = proof that one can be both Christian and bad-ass
Damn good movie. Love it love it love it. Better than the first one, that's for sure. My only regret was that they didn't do more with Colossus. Oh and no Gambit yet. He really needs to be in X3.

Posted: Tue May 06, 2003 7:36 pm
by loosecannon
i dont know what to think about Gambit. I just dont think that there will be a place for him in the big screeners. Gambit is supposed to be a main character. I think that thy may be too far into it. I know for sure that Pyro will play a big role in X3, thats assuming that there will be one....im sure there will.

Posted: Tue May 06, 2003 9:37 pm
by BreakmanX
I just watched X-Men 1, and I have to say that the guy that plays Cyclops does it perfectly. He portrays him in the way I would imagine him from the show and books. He also looks exactly like the drawings.

Props out to all the casting, though. Everyone was really well casted.

Posted: Tue May 06, 2003 11:10 pm
by kitsune
Cyclops, or the guy who plays him...wasnt well lets just say he wasnt casted well....he may of done better as an Extra.......
frankly Cyclops is a tool and the actor that played him did the part justice...as he also acted like a tool lol

sorry cyclops fans but i don't like him! its gambit all the way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: Tue May 06, 2003 11:13 pm
by BreakmanX
Yeah, I agree. The actor played the Cyclops part to perfection, even if you don't like him. Like Kitsune said.

Posted: Wed May 07, 2003 10:02 am
by loosecannon
Alright break, its time for war........

It may be that like kitsune I dont like cyclops. But, in the theatre I was sitting in, with a bunch of Xmen buffs. When cyclops said something serious everyone just laughed...hes just so goofy. Cyclops is meant to be a powerful, leader whos got a strong neck on a good head. The cyclops in the movies just, is a pussy. Ill admit, the first movie was ok with cyclops, but the second just sucked. He blows ass. I dont think he did a good job, and its just like a rotten apple in tree of the most delicious apples known to man, or mutants.

Posted: Wed May 07, 2003 2:21 pm
by kitsune
I'm going to disagree that Gambit shouldn't be in the movies. I think he would be great. I mean come on there are a lot of people in the movies right now that are main characters but aren't getting that status, yet! Gambit needs to coming in and steal rogue from iceman. I mean come a gambit vs iceman fight over a girl that would be sweet!


Also you were a little off with what Gambit's power(s). He can charge things, anything, with energy. He uses cards because they are easy to get and throw. He can charge any type of matter. Like if he wanted to he could charge up people. He doesn't charge them to throw them better he charges them so that they will explode. Also he has the power of being super charm, and agility. No one can resist him, rogue is powerless to his charm. Anyway he is sooo great. I want to see him with Rogue they make a great team.

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Posted: Thu May 08, 2003 11:36 am
by AIDS
BreakmanX wrote:I am really happy that Wolverine still has his adamintium too. When he got that ripped out of him by Magneto in the comics... it made him less cool. I heard he will be getting it, or maybe already got it, back. But, still. Yeah, Wolvie is great.
Yes, indeed, Wolverine did get his adamantium back. I'm pretty sure it happened in Wolverine #100. Apocalypse turned Wolverine into one of his Four Horsemen. He turned Wolverine into Death and replaced his adamantium skeleton. Let me tell you a thing about super hero comics...nothing is ever permanent. If someone dies in a comic most of the time they are not really dead. If the character is popular and if the fans are begging for it, they will find some way to bring back the character, whether it be a clone or raising the dead. When Wolverine lost his adamantium, I knew that it would return sometime. Wolverine's adamantium skeleton is a part of who he is. One thing that I liked about the whole Wolverine losing his adamantium skeleton thing was that it triggered one of my favorite X-Men events: Onslaught and even to some extent The Age Of Apocalypse.

shadow_realm wrote:I never got into X-men till the movies came out, so I’m a little lost when u guys start talking about characters from the books. who/what is phoenix and gambit?
dreamcubeboy wrote:I would recommend downloadinf some old animated XMEN episodes, it may help with the explaination.
I agree on this a little bit, but mostly, I disagree. I used to watch the old X-Men cartoons and don't get me wrong I still love them but I would not recommend the cartoon version of ANY comic as a reference. Why not just refer the original source itself, the actual X-Men and Uncanny X-Men comic book series. The cartoon series is not totally accurate when compared to the comic. Subtle and sometimes major changes are added to storylines. Watching the old X-Men cartoons when I was little actually got me interested in the comics. I have to admit, I never really read any of the X-Men comics on a regular basis back then. But every once in a while I’d go to the super market or something and find an issue with a cool cover or something, so I’d pick it up. In middle school, my friends were into comics, I’d go to comic shops with them and I’d buy trade paperbacks of stuff like X-Men and whatnot (this was the time when I read the Age of Apocalypse storyline). When I was in high school, I got a job and started making my own money that I could use to buy my own stuff. One day for some odd reason I decided to go to the comic shop. I went there and bought a few comics and ever since then, I’ve been hooked. I go to the comic shop every Wednesday (that’s when new comics come out). Today, I can finally say that I read X-Men on a regular basis. Specifically I read New X-Men (previously known as just X-Men) and Ultimate X-Men. I used to read Uncanny X-Men but I stopped that because I lost interest in the storyline. One thing I must warn though...comics can be expensive, especially if you are buying them every week and reading more than 20 different series and whatnot (which is what I do). But I’ve recently found out about a cheaper way to read comics...Bit Torrent. Bit Torrent is a file sharing type system where all kinds of comics can be found. Although I still prefer comics made of paper, I use Bit Torrent to read comics that are hard to find or issues of a certain series that I missed.

Go here to get Bit Torrent...
http://bitconjurer.org/BitTorrent/index.html

Go here to get comics...
http://torrentse.cx/index.php?type=8

Use this program to read the comics...
http://www.geocities.com/davidayton/CDisplay

comic recommendations...

MARVEL COMICS/MAX COMICS
New X-Men #114-current
X-Force #116-129
Xstatix #1-current
Ultimate X-Men #1-current
Ultimate Spiderman #1-current
The Ultimates #1-current
Daredevil Vol.2 #1-8 (written by Kevin Smith!) #26-current
The Amazing Spiderman Vol.2 #30-current
Exiles #1-current
The Punisher Vol.3 #1-12 Vol.4 #1-current
The Incredible Hulk #34-current
Alias #1-current
Fury #1-6
Spiderman Blue #1-6 (whole series)
Daredevil Yellow (whole series)

DC COMICS/VERTIGO COMICS/WILDSTORM COMICS/ABC
Green Arrow Vol.2 #1-15 (written by Kevin Smith!)
Batman #608-current
100 Bullets #1-current
Transmetropolitan #1-60 (whole series)
Sandman (whole series)
Y: The Last Man Standing #1-current
Fables #1-current
The Dark Knight Returns #1-4 (whole series)
The Dark Knight Strikes Again #1-3 (whole series)
Stormwatch Vol.1 #37-50 Vol.2 #1-12 WildC.A.T.S./Aliens Vol. 2 #1-current
Authority Vol.1 #1-29 Vol.2 #1-current
Planetary #1-current
Global Frequency #1-current
The Filth #1-current
The Invisibles Vol.1 #1-25 Vol.2 #1-22 Vol.3 #12-1
WildC.A.T.S. Vol.3 #1-current
Kingdom Come #1-4 (whole series)
Batman: The Long Halloween (whole series)

Anything by the writer Alan Moore including:
Watchmen #1-12 (whole series)
Swamp Thing #21-64
Tom Strong #1-current
Promethea #1-current
Top 10 #1-12
Tommorow Stories #1-12
From Hell (whole series) (yes, the movie is based on this)
The League Of Extraordinary Gentelmen Vol.1 #1-6 Vol.2 #1-current (yes, the movie is based on this)
Miracleman #1-16
Tom Strong's Terrific Tales #1-current
WildC.A.T.S. #21-34

OTHER
Powers #1-current
Rising Stars #1-current
any Battle Pope series
Johnny The Homicidal Maniac (whole series)
Filler Bunny and Revenge Of The Filler Bunny
Incal #1-current
The Metabarons #1-current
any Hellboy series
any Blue Monday series
any Hopeless Savages series
any Grrl Scouts series
Jim Mahfood's Stupid Comics
Dork #1-current
Eightball
Hate
Squee

That's pretty much everything I read. I know there's probably some I forgot but I need to stop sometime. Yup, I am a HUGE nerd. Hey, did anyone catch the Beast cameo in X2?

Posted: Fri May 09, 2003 6:16 pm
by kitsune
yeah i totally would download all those comics but sadly my 11 gig harddrive says no. I hope to get a new one this summer. I also plan on going out and buying the trade books of all the old x-men stuff.

yeah that best cameo is great. he was all like "look at me hank mccoy on the news hahaha!" It was great.