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Jbrown wrote: Cool sig :D

Learn me how to do that
Go to http://www.last.fm/tools/charts/

and click on the "Chart Builder" on the left side of the screen.

You can drop in any graphic you want.

It took me an hour of fiddling to get it RIGHT, but is IS a beta I guess...
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That shit is tight. I'll try that later on fo sho.
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Atticus wrote:It might be, but it will have some issues. Don't give Sony too much credit. The PS2 had more issues than I can name on release. They might have had more time, but I still don't trust that they've found every single glitch.

Oh, and let's just put the 360 is loud thing to rest, like Richie said. It's not going to get any quieter, so let's put it this way, if you want to play Gears Of War, then deal with the fans. I play every night and have no complaints, I guess I just don't understand why people make it sound like Microsoft has ruined their share of the next-gen because of fan noise.

Move on.
good argument, Lennon. Let's hope THIS argument doesn't get chopped and screwed like mine did. it's like dudes can't read. In more words or less, i stated the same thing.
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To me the noise is simply a sign of poor engineering that is most likely present throughout.

As for system failures.. If the Wii has problems it will be the first Nintendo system to do so (David Sheff, Game Over: Press Start to Continue.) Nintendo has something like a 2% product failure rate since they've been making systems. As for Sony, their hardware problems have been widely reported, but I have never personally known a system to go bad. Also, keep in mind that Sony had 80% market share for much of last gen which means many more Ps2s were out there with the possibility to fail. I got a ps1 the first Christmas, my brother got a Ps2 on launch and then I follwed a year later, and no problems were reported be me or him. Also, none of my friends that I know of have had problems. I might also mention the only system I have ever had that failed was my Xbox and I got that May of 02, quite a ways after launch. I believe Richie's had the notorious dirty disc errors as well.

But, with the 360 I know many people that have had problems. Just look at the forums.

I'm just trying to present the other side of the argument here. 360 is far and away the popular system right now. I experienced that first hand at SVHS. Nothing wrong with that, but I feel that it is my job as a journalist to present all information as well. If I had just let Weezer go unchallened, one might believe Nintendo never made a mistake! Same thing goes here.

I would like to restate what I said about the noise though. The noise by itself, while it is irritating, doesn't ruin the experience for me. But, I began my college career as a Comp Engineering student and have studied that sort of thing on my own time as well. Heat management is one of the best signs of quality engineering. The fact that the Cell should produce more heat overall than the 360 but is silent and cool should say something about the overall construction. I'm saying it is a sign of other problems with the engineering. The overall picture, not the snap shot.

BTW, I am aware that if you put your 360 in your room, turn your speakers way up, and then climb in a tank you will not hear the sound very much.
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BreakmanX wrote:BTW, I am aware that if you put your 360 in your room, turn your speakers way up, and then climb in a tank you will not hear the sound very much.
There is no other room, closet, or tank available to me. What do I do then people? :P
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BreakmanX wrote:As for system failures.. If the Wii has problems it will be the first Nintendo system to do so (David Sheff, Game Over: Press Start to Continue.) Nintendo has something like a 2% product failure rate since they've been making systems.
Need I remind you of the failing connector pins for the NES' cartridge slot? It was a long time ago, but even years after initial launch they refused to correct the problem by spending like an extra 30 cents per console to gold plate the connector pins. ...and no blowing into the cartridge didn't do jack to fix that.
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That is factored in to my percentage. Game Over: Press Start to Continue was the book I used for reference. It covers Nintendo's legal battles and whatnot.
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BreakmanX wrote:I'm just trying to present the other side of the argument here. 360 is far and away the popular system right now. I experienced that first hand at SVHS. Nothing wrong with that, but I feel that it is my job as a journalist to present all information as well. If I had just let Weezer go unchallened, one might believe Nintendo never made a mistake! Same thing goes here.
Well, let me see, you couldn't have been there for much over 7 hours, maybe 8 if you were early. Hm...you probably didn't experience even a quarter of the popular vote for the 360 there. It's mainly the fact that they ALL fell in love with the original Xbox for 1 reason or another (Halo...Halo...Halo...Halo 2...Halo 2...a few select people actually had more games than that though, but only a few. And those few got bored with the game very quickly too).
BreakmanX wrote:I would like to restate what I said about the noise though. The noise by itself, while it is irritating, doesn't ruin the experience for me. But, I began my college career as a Comp Engineering student and have studied that sort of thing on my own time as well. Heat management is one of the best signs of quality engineering. The fact that the Cell should produce more heat overall than the 360 but is silent and cool should say something about the overall construction. I'm saying it is a sign of other problems with the engineering. The overall picture, not the snap shot.
Well, as I said before...I think...The PS3s that have been shipped out to reviewers so far are all pretty damn bare-boned. They're more stripped down than a hooker in New York City. With that in mind, there's less weight to worry about, more space inside the console, less features for it to start up when it's turned on (which does contribute to heat build up), and with the wide open spaces inside the console itself allow the components inside of it to be stuck away from the disc, and the top of the console (where people typically feel the console to tell if it's warm), so it's very easy to fool people into thinking it's better than it is.

I'm not saying that it's not really cool to the touch after extensive play, I'm just stating the possibility. After all, the big odd against the 360's hardware is that, still, it came out to damn soon, and thus the hardware specs aren't NEARLY as polished anymore.
BreakmanX wrote:BTW, I am aware that if you put your 360 in your room, turn your speakers way up, and then climb in a tank you will not hear the sound very much.
Like I said, everyone is too damn picky about that soft humming sound. Guess I must be used to loud noises though since my brother always has the TV on to the point where I think I can literallly feel my ear collapsing into itself...
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Vamp wrote:
BreakmanX wrote:As for system failures.. If the Wii has problems it will be the first Nintendo system to do so (David Sheff, Game Over: Press Start to Continue.) Nintendo has something like a 2% product failure rate since they've been making systems.
Need I remind you of the failing connector pins for the NES' cartridge slot? It was a long time ago, but even years after initial launch they refused to correct the problem by spending like an extra 30 cents per console to gold plate the connector pins. ...and no blowing into the cartridge didn't do jack to fix that.
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The PS3s shipped so far aren't stripped of ANY components that would generate any appreciable heat or noise. The retail PS3s WILL be almost identical in heat and noise output.

I guess we aren't allowed to appreciate good engineering. >_>
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Mecha wrote:
BreakmanX wrote:BTW, I am aware that if you put your 360 in your room, turn your speakers way up, and then climb in a tank you will not hear the sound very much.
There is no other room, closet, or tank available to me. What do I do then people? :P
You paid 400+ for it knowing full well that it made a lot of noise. Sell it if your gonna bitch about it.

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I didn't know it made that much noise when I bought it. I was very surprised. Like I said though, the noise is just a snapshot into the overall engineering. If you can't make a console that sounds fairly quiet, then their must have been many other problems that were fixed half-assed or not well. We'll see which has more product failures between the two, but the ps3 has quite a bit to catch up with. And if it does, I'll be pissed at that too. I'm not forming an alliance with any system.

And what componants are missing? I've yet to hear about any hardware missing, only the store not functioning and some software not there. I've yet to hear anything about hardware.
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Verence wrote:The PS3s shipped so far aren't stripped of ANY components that would generate any appreciable heat or noise. The retail PS3s WILL be almost identical in heat and noise output.

I guess we aren't allowed to appreciate good engineering. >_>
I never mentioned anything about that...
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BreakmanX wrote:I didn't know it made that much noise when I bought it. I was very surprised. Like I said though, the noise is just a snapshot into the overall engineering. If you can't make a console that sounds fairly quiet, then their must have been many other problems that were fixed half-assed or not well. We'll see which has more product failures between the two, but the ps3 has quite a bit to catch up with. And if it does, I'll be pissed at that too. I'm not forming an alliance with any system.

And what componants are missing? I've yet to hear about any hardware missing, only the store not functioning and some software not there. I've yet to hear anything about hardware.
The journalists doing reviews for the games didn't get complete PS3s, they only got PS3s that had some components removed so they didn't have to lose tons of money on the consoles by giving them out for free at the moment. The only real reason they want those journalists to have those PS3s after all is to review the games, not watch blu-ray movies.
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I knew about the noise issue before I got mine and I got it on launch day. But what I meant was that Mecha waited a while to get his, and by the time he got his, everyone was saying it was loud. I just figured that everyone short of President Bush knew the thing had fan noise.
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